"SIM" means "simulation", or basically that even if they are in a lock they can't actually fire their weapons. This is a show of force, showing the Turkish army that the Greek pilots can execute you if they want. Obviously the Turkish pilot couldn't know that the weapons were on "SIM", that goes to show how much it takes to be an ACE and protect your country from aggressors at the same time. That time the weapons where on SIM, but they might not always be that way;
@@SeligTiles I don’t think so, I can’t see why remaining rounds would be classified. I suspect it’s some kind of symbology or targeting aid to give feedback. Perhaps range or flight path cues. Or IFF
@@Brokenrocktail see the comments in this video. The aircraft that fired an aim 7 didn’t have that black square because the aim 7 is obsolete ua-cam.com/video/cKQ-ztykaQY/v-deo.htmlsi=1yXhfdggSlWLVVdA
No this is both missiles and guns, the mode is in DGFT which means "dogfight" and that mode enables the use of your A-A missiles and your gun. Anytime you hear "lock" or a distinct tone, that AA missile could have been fired if the weapons wasn't in SIM as sgtjonzo explaied above;
@@-_Nuke_- So is the pilot wants to shoot a missle or the gun? Because it looks like he wants to line up the tunnel for the gun, but it dissapears when there is good gun solution. Is he switching to missle, or it automatically dissapears in this mode when the missle is locked on? And why is the missle only locks on when its almost a perfect gun soulution? Is the missle locking that bad that the plane has to point directy towards the other plane to have a lock?
It's a training. The master arm is in simulate mode, that allows to lock and provides hud symbology as if it was a real dogfight, yet doesn't fire any ammo. You can see that because 1. it shows "SIM" in the HUD corner and 2. the pilot had multiple occasions to shoot yet he didn't.
@@kibukaj2956 it might be training and it might be an actual dogfight we don't really know because Greek and Turkish pilots are told to dogfight on sim mode to not cause any war but I do hope Greece and turkey can have peace sometime
@@wg4112 Average DCS dogfight players think a 12 minute dogfight while pulling 8 G's is possible. Sorry guys, but keeping the blood in your brain is exhausting.
You uneducated people that say its exercise because its in SIM mode, you need to realize that in every interception, in every dogfight it is always in SIM mode, that doesn't make it less real. They just don't want to accidentality to shoot down each other due to the heat of the battle(has happened in the past). Even in SIM mode everything working the same as in ARM mode, the seeker is tracking the target, the radar is locking the target, everything its the same but it will not release the missile. But if you really want to, its easy to do it, it all takes 1 sec literally, its a switch that you change its position from SIM to ARM. So in those dogfights as you see in the vid, a pilot can shoot down the locked fighter immediately, it wont take more than 2 sec to arm the missiles. Thats goes for every interception around the world, when US intercepts Russian air planes, they do have the switch in SIM mode, same with Russians when intercept US planes or any other NATO aircraft or any other nation intercepting a target. You have brains dont you? Well put it in use and think before you write BS.
@IHas Feets You have no idea what you talking about bob. Learn the meaning of interception and dogfight. Interception can happen without arming the missiles, after all if you really want to some someone down you can simply turn a switch, it will take a sec but all the rest movements, targeting locks are real as it gets.
@IHas Feets Omg you are so idiot, you have no idea what interception is and what is happening in the Aegean in regular basis. Go educate yourself because you just show your ignorance right now. Those are not training exercises bob. Turkish fighter jets violate Greek airspace and Greek jets intercept and in most cases it ends up in a dogfight. There have been casualties in the past. Go do your homework before u come here and sound like an ignorant uneducated bob.
the only difference between Turkish air for and hellenics is Turkey doesn't share any video but you could be sure there are tons of videos but we won't share them because we answer with real things. Like cyprus war, mediterranean sea source operations. and now our navtex around meis island :) I hope you have tapes for them too because sharing a conflict that haven't any casualty is meanless.
@@-_Nuke_- Actually switching the masterarm from sim to arm can fuck up the entire fight for the greek pilot since it requires him to take his hands off of the hotas wich can result in him losing track. Besides it is known by everyone that greece cannot initiate a war so they might as well just remote the masterarm switch from all their aircrafts because they will never be instructed to use it :)
The level and the education of the Greek pilots are extremely high.That is why TuAF is losing 10 out of 10 battles in the air. What i am saying is not an assumption, it's a fact.
HUD BFM. terrible. greedy sloppy gun mech with not so much as a single bullet frame on the adversary. the frames at the end don't count... he only has 5 seconds of gun time which he spent well prior to the lucky snap he achieved at the end.
Yes but as we see their guns are on SIM... at least in BMS that means that you can't shoot even if you do pres pickle... There has to indicate ARM in order for the pilot to be able to shoot the target... So I wonder if in this case the "SIM" indication means something else that "simulate"
You'd ideally want to be around 380 knots, 165 is SUPER slow. If the other pilot managed his speed better, that would be game over for the guy filming in this training scenario.
Hey everyone, this is not a real dogfight. If you look at the bottom left on the hud, it says "SIM". That means its just a training dog fight. Still awesome.
Pavlos Karoustas I think your dreaming mate ... You can’t take down a country with nearly 85 millions peoples .. And keep in mind that turks have military conscription, for both man and woman so they know how to fight.
Pavlos Karoustas If they are not turks, what do they do in the country then ? Of course, i don’t count the refugees and immigrants but only the people that have the turkish nationalities. 85 millions means every people who have the turkish nationalities. Also you mentionned 30 millions kurdish, but they have the turkish nationalities too and the majority support the governement. Btw i don’t support Erdogan but it’s another debate.
it is not real dogfight from war ... look at HUD can u see (SIM) ? MASTER ARM is in SIM (SIMULATION) mode there is no gun no aim-9 sidewinder, can you hear beeeeeeeep its when he shoot
@Pavlos Karoustas Δεν είναι εκπαίδευση, κάθε μέρα σε SIM mode τους κλειδώνουμε για να μην γίνει καταλάθος εκτόξευση του πυραύλου και προκληθεί πόλεμος.Αυτό συμβαίνει λόγω της αυξημένης ικανότητας των Ικάρων μας να πιπώνουν καθημερινά τους μπούφους (και πολλούς άλλους εκτός των Τούρκων) εδώ και μισό αιώνα τουλάχιστον! Σιγά το δύσκολο ή το χρονοβόρο με ένα κουμπί να το γυρίσεις στα όπλα και να στείλεις τον μεμέτη για πιλάφ!
@@goldencaliber1012 no one is crying its just facts /: this isn't war footage this is a greek pilot intercepting a Turkish pilot and both pilots are trying to avoid war I hope peace between turkey and Greece will happen sometime tho
Im pretty sure they put it on SIM even in real life dogfights, because Greeks and Turks really don't want any mistakes happening between them; Only if they are instructed by the radio (I guess) they will turn it to ARM and shoot the missile. The switch itself only takes about less than a second, so its not a big deal... You literally just flip a switch and you are on ARM.
было куча моментов выстрелить...неужели снаряды закончелись?
Looks exhausting
"SIM" means "simulation", or basically that even if they are in a lock they can't actually fire their weapons. This is a show of force, showing the Turkish army that the Greek pilots can execute you if they want. Obviously the Turkish pilot couldn't know that the weapons were on "SIM", that goes to show how much it takes to be an ACE and protect your country from aggressors at the same time. That time the weapons where on SIM, but they might not always be that way;
This comment section is pure nonsense, and now I'm part of it.
I've always wondered what a dog fight looks like from the ground
I wonder what is censored out when the gun fires, clearly only big enough to be a single character or symbol
Since it occurs when the trigger is “pulled” I would imagine it has something to do with amount of rounds fired and remaining.
@@SeligTiles I don’t think so, I can’t see why remaining rounds would be classified. I suspect it’s some kind of symbology or targeting aid to give feedback. Perhaps range or flight path cues. Or IFF
@@Brokenrocktail it is ranging info.
@@Brokenrocktail see the comments in this video. The aircraft that fired an aim 7 didn’t have that black square because the aim 7 is obsolete ua-cam.com/video/cKQ-ztykaQY/v-deo.htmlsi=1yXhfdggSlWLVVdA
Ηaf the best... turkish go to sleep
He has selected guns to lock him down.
is anyone in 2022
that dude would have been dead so many times, too many lock onas and hee was right in the gun funnel, with the dots over him
Are they doing gun only dogfight? Why is the tunnel dissapears when its in a good position?
Says “SIM” on the left side, it’s in simulated mode where the reticule comes on but the gun isn’t armed, as a warning to the other aircraft
No this is both missiles and guns, the mode is in DGFT which means "dogfight" and that mode enables the use of your A-A missiles and your gun. Anytime you hear "lock" or a distinct tone, that AA missile could have been fired if the weapons wasn't in SIM as sgtjonzo explaied above;
@@-_Nuke_- So is the pilot wants to shoot a missle or the gun? Because it looks like he wants to line up the tunnel for the gun, but it dissapears when there is good gun solution. Is he switching to missle, or it automatically dissapears in this mode when the missle is locked on? And why is the missle only locks on when its almost a perfect gun soulution? Is the missle locking that bad that the plane has to point directy towards the other plane to have a lock?
Türk ordusu gururla sunar
✈🛩🇬🇷✝️☦💪
THATS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
СУПЕР👍👍👍👍👍 👍 👍👍👍👍👍👍 👍👍👍
Man, gotta thumbs up for greek and their eastern brother to have rivalry for idk, Thousands of years.
It's a training. The master arm is in simulate mode, that allows to lock and provides hud symbology as if it was a real dogfight, yet doesn't fire any ammo. You can see that because 1. it shows "SIM" in the HUD corner and 2. the pilot had multiple occasions to shoot yet he didn't.
@@kibukaj2956 interception.
@@kibukaj2956 it might be training and it might be an actual dogfight we don't really know because Greek and Turkish pilots are told to dogfight on sim mode to not cause any war but I do hope Greece and turkey can have peace sometime
he was a little slow, from what this looks like its a 2 circle fight and viper turns best around 430 kts with clean wings iirc
You must be really good at dcs
You aren't the pilot tho lol
best turkish pilot
@@mattheos11 lol average dcs dogfight player thinking they can fly a real f16 in a war
@@wg4112 Average DCS dogfight players think a 12 minute dogfight while pulling 8 G's is possible. Sorry guys, but keeping the blood in your brain is exhausting.
Could have nailed him 3 times if he switched to guns.
its a training fight, if he did that he would go to jail
@@pancake5830 hayır bu bir eğitim değil Türk ve Yunan hava kuvvetlerinin gerçek bir it dövüşü bunlar burada hep oluyor
guyz calm down this is greek vs greek SIM mod has active
No the sim mod is activated to not shoot down accidentally the f16 not like in 1996
How many kills to unlock drone strike
He use a high yo yo at the end to catch up and get into a pure persuit.
aim9 at the start
You uneducated people that say its exercise because its in SIM mode, you need to realize that in every interception, in every dogfight it is always in SIM mode, that doesn't make it less real. They just don't want to accidentality to shoot down each other due to the heat of the battle(has happened in the past). Even in SIM mode everything working the same as in ARM mode, the seeker is tracking the target, the radar is locking the target, everything its the same but it will not release the missile. But if you really want to, its easy to do it, it all takes 1 sec literally, its a switch that you change its position from SIM to ARM. So in those dogfights as you see in the vid, a pilot can shoot down the locked fighter immediately, it wont take more than 2 sec to arm the missiles. Thats goes for every interception around the world, when US intercepts Russian air planes, they do have the switch in SIM mode, same with Russians when intercept US planes or any other NATO aircraft or any other nation intercepting a target. You have brains dont you? Well put it in use and think before you write BS.
@IHas Feets You have no idea what you talking about bob. Learn the meaning of interception and dogfight. Interception can happen without arming the missiles, after all if you really want to some someone down you can simply turn a switch, it will take a sec but all the rest movements, targeting locks are real as it gets.
@IHas Feets Omg you are so idiot, you have no idea what interception is and what is happening in the Aegean in regular basis. Go educate yourself because you just show your ignorance right now. Those are not training exercises bob. Turkish fighter jets violate Greek airspace and Greek jets intercept and in most cases it ends up in a dogfight. There have been casualties in the past. Go do your homework before u come here and sound like an ignorant uneducated bob.
the only difference between Turkish air for and hellenics is Turkey doesn't share any video but you could be sure there are tons of videos but we won't share them because we answer with real things. Like cyprus war, mediterranean sea source operations. and now our navtex around meis island :) I hope you have tapes for them too because sharing a conflict that haven't any casualty is meanless.
Luke... I am your father...
You did not search for this 😏 UA-cam algorithm strikes again
@PETER ZARI congrats
SIM xD
To avoid mistakes, this is a show of skill, the switch itself to ARM takes less than a couple of seconds when needed or instructed
@@-_Nuke_- Actually switching the masterarm from sim to arm can fuck up the entire fight for the greek pilot since it requires him to take his hands off of the hotas wich can result in him losing track. Besides it is known by everyone that greece cannot initiate a war so they might as well just remote the masterarm switch from all their aircrafts because they will never be instructed to use it :)
Damn this comment section’s so old people were fighting without replying to each other
Damn your planes getting shot at.
😂😂😂😂
I think youtube didnt have the reply feature, so they did that instead. It’s just like how forums work
@@mineko2219 yeah that’s what I was talking about xD
no u
Why this video is in my recommend list after 11 years
Maybe you had been watching jet videos
I felt like I was in first person mode in gta for a second 😂 so cool to actually see it for real
Wait so this is F-16 VS F-16 I'm confused
@@archer24 It's training
@@Melodre no way
@@archer24 Pilots do simulated "dogfights" to train themselves. In the corner of the HUD it says "SIM."
@@Melodre I thought it was Turkish F16 vs Greece F16
*Please, don't breathe*
I CANT ANDURSTAND WHY ALWAYS GREEKS WIN TURKS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY JUST TRAINING.....
The level and the education of the Greek pilots are extremely high.That is why TuAF is losing 10 out of 10 battles in the air. What i am saying is not an assumption, it's a fact.
good tone good tone
Ace combat on playstation kind of has it down pat.
Look up DCS World
Friend, AC is... not accurate to life. It's very much a rule-of-cool take on military aviation. There are some other good sims if you're into realism.
Why is there a growl when it’s on guns?
It's on Dogfight override mode. Both the Sidewinder and gun is armed. Trigger fires the gun and pickle fires the missiles
Ah I see, thanks
GUNS GUNS GUNS!
Strong Pilot. to catch a cruise missile) you need a lot of health on the bend. Sorry for my English
passed out duel g-force
機銃撃ちまくってる？
Pitiful. Couldnt keep him in sight and get a missle lock tone.
This is only a spar He also had tone only for a second while he was at a bad angle in very close range, the missile could easily miss
0:49
Could've done without the fake breathing sounds.
Νταξει παιδια το συγκεκριμενο νομιζω οτι ειναι απο εκπαιδευτικη αερομαχια αναμεσα σε ελληνικα. Για αυτο και τον ακους στο τελος να λεει terminate.
παίζει
Where's a MOAB when ya' need one?
MOAB isn’t air to air.
HUD BFM. terrible. greedy sloppy gun mech with not so much as a single bullet frame on the adversary. the frames at the end don't count... he only has 5 seconds of gun time which he spent well prior to the lucky snap he achieved at the end.
playing dcs, this gives me a sudden urge to pull a trigger
Yes but as we see their guns are on SIM... at least in BMS that means that you can't shoot even if you do pres pickle... There has to indicate ARM in order for the pilot to be able to shoot the target... So I wonder if in this case the "SIM" indication means something else that "simulate"
Nice low speed maneuvers. Good pilot.
You'd ideally want to be around 380 knots, 165 is SUPER slow. If the other pilot managed his speed better, that would be game over for the guy filming in this training scenario.
Hey everyone, this is not a real dogfight. If you look at the bottom left on the hud, it says "SIM". That means its just a training dog fight. Still awesome.
That's right, it's an exercise by HAF jets. However, SIM means that the missiles and gun are locked, this can also be the case with real dogfights ;)
It's in SIM because you don't want a war on your hands.
If it was in arm mode, the turk would be dead now. Greek pilots have orders to be in sim mode
Pavlos Karoustas I think your dreaming mate ... You can’t take down a country with nearly 85 millions peoples .. And keep in mind that turks have military conscription, for both man and woman so they know how to fight.
Pavlos Karoustas If they are not turks, what do they do in the country then ? Of course, i don’t count the refugees and immigrants but only the people that have the turkish nationalities. 85 millions means every people who have the turkish nationalities. Also you mentionned 30 millions kurdish, but they have the turkish nationalities too and the majority support the governement. Btw i don’t support Erdogan but it’s another debate.
it is not real dogfight from war ... look at HUD can u see (SIM) ? MASTER ARM is in SIM (SIMULATION) mode there is no gun no aim-9 sidewinder, can you hear beeeeeeeep its when he shoot
@Pavlos Karoustas Δεν είναι εκπαίδευση, κάθε μέρα σε SIM mode τους κλειδώνουμε για να μην γίνει καταλάθος εκτόξευση του πυραύλου και προκληθεί πόλεμος.Αυτό συμβαίνει λόγω της αυξημένης ικανότητας των Ικάρων μας να πιπώνουν καθημερινά τους μπούφους (και πολλούς άλλους εκτός των Τούρκων) εδώ και μισό αιώνα τουλάχιστον! Σιγά το δύσκολο ή το χρονοβόρο με ένα κουμπί να το γυρίσεις στα όπλα και να στείλεις τον μεμέτη για πιλάφ!
@@goldencaliber1012 no one is crying its just facts /: this isn't war footage this is a greek pilot intercepting a Turkish pilot and both pilots are trying to avoid war I hope peace between turkey and Greece will happen sometime tho
@@Error-33 the comment was really old, Peace to everybody, all people must be brothers. Never wars
Im pretty sure they put it on SIM even in real life dogfights, because Greeks and Turks really don't want any mistakes happening between them; Only if they are instructed by the radio (I guess) they will turn it to ARM and shoot the missile. The switch itself only takes about less than a second, so its not a big deal... You literally just flip a switch and you are on ARM.
Who said it is dogfight between Hellenic and Turkish? By the way check this /watch?v=H_QTJc6TlQo
No thats simulated on the hud. :)
i guess we won't be having more videos like this thanks to merkel's fourth reich
its not in the HUD. the totalizer is on the right hand panel. just forward of the Side Stick Controller.